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Decisions, Decision, Decisions

Should I stay or should I go now?
If I go there will be trouble
And if I stay it will be double

– From The Clash’s “Should I Stay or Should I Go?

Working with patients as they make decisions is one of the core components of genetic counseling. It’s not the only thing genetic counselors do, but we sure do it a lot. Some of these decisions are relatively minor while others can be life-changing, irreversible, and have life and death implications. When the decision does not call for an immediate choice, the patient has some breathing room to weigh the situation and work through the cognitive and psychological issues. In other circumstances, there is the added complication of a time-critical decision that must be made within days or hours. But either way, no matter how much we educate, engage, reciprocally engage, or center the patient, making decisions can be gut-wrenchingly difficult.

All genetic counselors have dealt with this in some way. Should I have a cfDNA prenatal screen? Just for aneuploidy or include some of the microdeletions too? If it’s positive, should I have an amnio? I really want that germline breast cancer panel but those results can be awfully scary, or maybe worse, ambiguous. Should I have a unilateral or bilateral mastectomy? Should I subject my child to a new but unproven treatment for a genetic condition when that treatment may have serious side effects and may not even be effective? Should I let my asymptomatic child who carries a low penetrant pathogenic variant for a hereditary cardiomyopathy participate in high intensity sports like crew or kayaking so they can have as normal a childhood as possible?

The genetic counseling literature often talks about informed choices. But after about the first genetic counseling session in your career, you quickly realize that choices involve a lot more than just informing. Complex emotional and psychological matters come in to play as patients process the information and try to figure out what the different options might mean for them, their families, their emotional states, their finances, and their psychological adaptation to their post-decision lives. It’s not simply a matter of weighing pros and cons. It’s more like trying to piece together a jigsaw puzzle when you don’t have a box cover to tell you what the completed puzzle should look like and you only have a limited time to do it in. How do all these damned pieces fit together to create a coherent picture?

The hardest part is that patients just about never know if a decision is good or bad until after they’ve made it. Sure, sometimes (maybe most of the time? I don’t know), decisions turn out to be the “right” one. But there is no way that patients or genetic counselors can predict the future and reassure one another that the particular patient choice will turn out to be for the best, or at least not for the worst. There are just too many unknowns and unknowables. We think we know ourselves but then we are faced with a new reality and suddenly we don’t know ourselves so well. I didn’t think that early menopause would be this bad. I believed I could terminate a pregnancy if I thought the baby had a profoundly serious condition, but now that I know it, I’m not so sure I can go through with a termination. After having watched our mother die of ovarian cancer and supporting me through my breast cancer treatment and decision about having genetic testing, I was sure my two sisters would be relieved to have the genetic information so they could learn their own risks and act accordingly to reduce their risks. Instead they have gone into a psychological tailspin and one of them isn’t even talking to me anymore.

Then there is the matter of people and their values changing over time. This can alter perspectives on whether a decision made years ago was for the best. For example, a patient might have been an atheist but as they’ve gotten older, they’ve found great comfort in Christianity or Islam or whatever faith and now their views are guided by religious beliefs. Or conversely, deeply religious people may lose their faith after witnessing so much cruelty and senseless suffering in the world. A 30 year old may have been dead set against having children and decided to undergo sapling-oophorectomy to reduce their cancer risks but afterwards has a change of heart and regrets having lost the ability to become pregnant. Someone may have been a staunch supporter of abortion for themselves and others but their personal ethics and philosophy have changed over time and they are wracked with guilt because they now feel that abortion is morally wrong.

Unpredictable externalities may also influence how people come to view their decisions over time. Someone might choose an expensive but unproven lifelong treatment for themselves or their children but then lose their job and their health insurance, leading to deep medical debt and perhaps loss of housing, and to top it off, the medical condition has only worsened over time. Someone reluctantly undergoes genetic testing for Huntington disease to establish the risks for their two siblings, and though the patient thinks it was a bad emotional decision for personal reasons, they take comfort in learning that their siblings do not carry the pathogenic triplet repeat expansion. Shortly thereafter, both siblings die in a pandemic after having refused a vaccination. A woman undergoes a risk-reducing saplingo-oophorectomy but winds up with serious and life-threatening post-operative complications.

I’m not trying to push the pessimitic and unhelpful message to patients that they should just give up and flip a coin or turn to a tarot reading because it is impossible to make good decisions. Instead, we need to help them understand that often there may not be a clear-cut best choice at the time they are making the decision. And genetic counselors should feel free to constructively criticize and explore a patient’s choice if it shows they clearly did not understand the underlying technical information or it does not seem to align with their values, while doing our best to filter our our own biases and counter-transference issues. Patients need to recognize that over time they may change their view of whether their decision was the right one or the wrong one or some mix of the two. They don’t have too much control over the future. But we can help them understand that they have done everything they could to make the best possible decision at that time They are decent, compassionate human beings who are just trying to do the best they can in a very complicated world.

Beyond the genetic counseling sphere, the difficulties of decision making arise in all of our everyday lives. Should I take this job or that job? Is this the best person to hire for the job (I swear that, despite all the interviews and glowing letters of recommendation, you never know what somebody is like as a co-worker until you’ve worked with them)? Should I buy this house or that house? Is this the person I want to marry? Are we at the point where divorce is the best option? Should I attend college or learn a trade and become a plumber or an electrician? Should I stay at home to raise my children or continue working and somehow manage to pay for child care? We can’t know the answers to these questions. We can only do our best and not kick ourselves when life doesn’t turn out as we thought it might.

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A less common motivation for prenatal diagnosis

As I explore a woman’s capabilities and values in decision making regarding pregnancy and testing, I sometimes uncover unexpected underlying motivations for the genetics consultation. One area that intrigues me and is not often discussed (if at all) in the literature is the desire for what is typically deemed a “poor” outcome.

I believe it is integral for the prenatal genetic counselor to understand the circumstances surrounding a conception – was this a desired pregnancy? Did it take a long time to conceive? Is the patient ambivalent about the pregnancy? There are times when I have I realized a pregnancy was unplanned and the patient did not wish to continue the pregnancy, but did not feel comfortable with abortion or an adoption plan.

To such individuals, prenatal diagnostic procedures can be the beacon of hope, the ticket to diffusion of responsibility. If a miscarriage occurs as a result of the procedure, the patient can take comfort in the justification that she was testing to ensure the health of her pregnancy and that the miscarriage was beyond her control. If a diagnosis of a chromosomal issue is made, the patient can feel further justified in pursuing an abortion feeling she does not want to bring a child into the world who may experience undue suffering.

If a patient desires a procedure because she has a hope it will increase her odds for miscarriage or the diagnosis of an anomaly and thus, facilitate a more passive act than actively terminating a healthy pregnancy, do you feel the procedure becomes unjustified? In medical world where (gratefully) diagnostic procedures are offered to everyone and termination is available for any reason, I believe the answer is no. But it is a key moment in counseling to explore the meaning/implications of the pregnancy for the patient and the ramifications of both a healthy or atypical outcome after diagnostic testing.

The genetic counseling relationship must extend further in this case when a diagnosis of a healthy fetus with 46 chromosomes is made just as it would when a diagnosis of Trisomy 18 discovered. The genetic counselor must continue to engage in the decision making process regarding the pregnancy, and if she uncovers psychological defenses and processes that are too complex for the GC to work through, she must refer to a social worker/appropriate counselor. Remember, the quality of a decision is often a function of the decision process itself more than outcome. I think if a patient can look back on a decision and feel she spent a great deal of time considering her values, beliefs, and desires, she can feel more comfortable with her choice whether it be to continue, terminate, or make an adoption plan. We can not simply inform the patient the results are “normal” and move on.

We often think about prenatal diagnosis in terms of the quest for the perfect child, the reassurance of a healthy child, the ability to prepare for a child with special needs, and the availability of making decisions in favor of termination the face of a difficult diagnosis. Often prenatal diagnosis is tied to a desired pregnancy where there is parental desire to feel some degree of control over their and their child’s future. But what I am thinking about is in opposition to this, an undesired pregnancy where there is parental desire to have little control over the outcome, to be in a situation where the individual does not wish to bear the burden/responsibility of making a decision against continuing a pregnancy. We must also remember that this all may backfire on the patient if a miscarriage really does occur or if a prenatal diagnosis is actually made. The patient may then begin to feel a great deal of responsibility, remorse, guilt, and shame that was unexpected. You have to be prepared for this as well.

We all make decisions hundreds of times a day that we are not conscious of, not challenged by. Sometimes decisions about prenatal diagnosis appear to clear cut and our patients may even describe them in this way. But we must be astute enough to recognize when this is not the case and engage the patient enough to openly talk about her thoughts and help her anticipate the myriad of potential genetic and emotional outcomes. And we must be prepared to effectively make appropriate referrals when the patient’s psychological dynamics are too complex for our training to unravel and assist.

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Interpretation, Declined.

The important and challenging task for the language interpreter is to find a balance between active and passive involvement, understanding what is happening while attempting to interpret, word for word, what is said.globe

Many interpreters accomplish this fairly well and I do not often believe they are actually influencing my patients in any particular direction for or against prenatal testing, terminations, cancer testing, etc. But, recently, an interpreter declined continuing because my French speaking patient from Africa and I were discussing abortion. The interpreter hung up, “exercising her right to decline continuing”.

After 30 minutes of rapport had been built, everything went into limbo for 10 minutes as I worked to find a new interpreter. I do not know exactly what the patient was thinking in those 10 minutes, but my thoughts went something like this…

“What kind of question did the patient ask that finally made the interpreter uncomfortable? Does my patient feel judged by this 3rd party who is probably sitting in her cozy ‘interpreter chair’?! I am angry! Don’t they screen for personal beliefs when they sign up people up for this service?! I am going to black list this interpreter from ob/gyn services…Wait, I have to focus on the patient’s reaction..”

I composed myself and apologized profusely to the patient. She was gracious and reiterated her question to our new interpreter. I heard, “Would the hospital be supportive of a decision to terminate a pregnancy with Down Syndrome?”

Clearly, the interpreter would not be.

But the interpreter is not actually a part of the hospital. That is known to me, but not necessarily to the patient. We spent some time clarifying the mixed signals the patient was receiving. The patient eventually decided to decline further prenatal screening. Did the interpreter influence her decision?

I could not survive my prodigiously diverse hospital setting without the aide of the language line. I have been suspicious that some interpreters are not translating word for word. I even hang up if I am uncomfortable with the interpreter’s style. However, this scenario forced me to further question whether or not the service actually influences the patient’s decision making.

A conference this weekend regarding medical decision-making published an abstract about this issue and the authors say:

Common challenges were additions, omissions and modifications in terminology resulting in miscommunication of clinical and cultural concepts, and ethical concerns during conflicting values between providers, interpreters and patients.”

How do we overcome this? Can we? If we start using computers to translate for patients and providers, we would lose some of the essential humanness that great interpreters provide i.e. using a more compassionate voice when the room is full of tears, recognizing when a patient is lost and asking to rephrase.

As a genetic counselor, my primary goal is to facilitate informed decisions rooted in self-understanding.
This often requires a non-directive and supportive environment. Anyone who assists us must have this goal as well. I implore interpretation providers to assess your beliefs before becoming involved in cases that might be morally offensive to you.

There is little worse than negative judgment when you are most vulnerable. Ask the patients. Ask yourself.

Please share your thoughts about the influence of language providers on your patients. I am reminded of “The Spirit Catches You and You Fall Down”. Maybe I should revisit this book, other suggestions?

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